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Outcomes of the external toilet block being demolished.

  1. Many volunteers have lent their support to the demolishion and removal of the external toilet block.
  2. Some business have donated their labor costs for the same.
  3. Upfront cash donation to Hazelwood and Churchill Guide District $2220.00 [broken into $80.00 for electrician to disconnect the outside light attached to the external toilet walls, $290.00 for the plumber to find and cap the galvinised water pipe, $700.00 for demolision, $650.00 off unit costs and $500.00 for slacking of bricks.
  4. Further running costs were to support refreshments and food for volunteers doing various odd jobs around the removal of mortar from the bricks.
  5. Complaints from the Churchill Soccer Club re loss of use old the external toilet block facilities.
  6. Complaints directed via Latrobe City Council from a near by farmer and different members of the Churchill Soccer Club re the children from the Churchill Soccer Club playing on the stacked bricks.
  7. Stacked bricks being mysteriously knocked over and dislodged from stacked pile.
  8. As it turns out the Ideas for extension plans that were drawn up are currently a no hoper.  There is too many steps for the few volunteers to tackle the Latrobe City Council so other these plans have had to be sidelined for a few years.
  9. The inability to properly maintain the area around the ‘piles’of bricks.
  10. Recycling the of the bricks for pathways, BBQ’s, garden walls, compost storage, garden boarders.
  11. Our old ‘closed off’ septic storage location was found on the Hazelwood South Reserve.
  12. Reusing the old external toilet block concrete slab for a base of  the ‘gorilla garden’.
  13. Weight loss and exercise!  There was lots of swinging the arms etc when moving the bricks.
  14. Extension of job for the morning tea sub-committee…. oh lunch was beautiful.. and much needed too.
  15. Different hazelwood South Hall fundraising projects have been aired and taken on.
  16. Volunteer audit has begun via Guide Centre in 2010.
  17. Rubbish removal by volunteers occurred several times.
  18. The donated tan bark has been used between the front entrances and the “brickery” construction.
  19. The old carpet previously stored in the external toilets was recycled.
  20. A small Jerry can of petrol was found in the bushes and given to the District Leader for safe keeping.
  21. The front entrances to the Hazelwood South Hall have been created.
  22. the community garden idea has become a ‘Why don’t we plant herbs” idea.
  23. A ‘brickery’ has been built [allias Gorilla garden]
  24. Frogs saved and relocated.
  25. The standards for the maintenance of the Hazelwood South Hall are easier to want to be kept. The front and the back already look good so it makes it easier to keep looking good.
  26. Native tree line along the boundary between the Hazelwood South Hall and the Hazelwood South Reserve will gradually begin.
  27. The SWOT of the Hazelwood South Hall has altered .  The Brickery and the front entrances have moved into the Strength and Opportunity boxes.
  28. Some of the objectives from the upgrading of the Hazelwood and Churchill District guides have occurred.
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May 8, 2010 Posted by | External toilet, Garden, Hazelwood Reserve, Sub Committees, Uncategorized | 2 Comments

The Hazelwood [South] markets.

Hazelwood [South] Hall has been the basis of the fundraising Markets. These markets were run over several years using both the Hazelwood South Reserve and the Hazelwood [South] Hall.

An organising committee was set up through the then Hazelwood Guide Support Group The committee comprised of the the Hazelwood Guide Support Group.

A lot was learned by the organising for and of and the running of the markets. Some money was fundraised which was the primary objective.

March 6, 2010 Posted by | fundraising, Hazelwood and Churchill Girl Guide District, Hazelwood Reserve, Hazelwood South Hall | Leave a comment

Septic smell stinks

For as long as two of the current Hazelwood and Churchill Girl Guide Leaders have been utilizing the Hazelwood [South] Hall there has been a septic smell that has gradually got worse. the simple deduction being where there was an ongoing smell that bad their had to be at least one Health and Safety issue soon to arise.

The smell is sometimes bad enough that Girls, Parents and visitors have not wanted to come into the Hazelwood [South] Hall. Note that when a female is ovulating in the menstrual cycle the olfactory area is very susceptible to smells. Girl Guide are femoral from the age of five and continuing all their lives. People who do not inhale strong smells [such as smoke, chemicals, alcohol, perfumes] were also susceptible to the septic smell.

Events, activities and service times became minimal due to the unpleasantness of the odor. Overnight stays were hard to tolerate, meeting times were worse. Things like the running of Jota /i was dicey for the Hazelwood and Churchill Girl Guides to organise as the smell was foremost on the organisers minds. Inviting visitors and team members to assist was becoming more and more difficult. No one wanted to be around the septic smell.

The Hazelwood [South] Hall is owned by the Department of Sustainability and Environment – leased by the Hazelwood Girl guide District. The Hazelwood Reserve goes through the Latrobe City Council partially leased by the Churchill Soccer Club. The open land from that divides the Churchill Soccer Club from the Hazelwood [South] Hall is open public ground..

Girl Guides Australia has trained its Leaders in developing a Risk Analysis with any event, service, activity a being done. Evaluations on these Risk Analysis’s are reported on. A simple overall Risk Analysis encouraged by the Latrobe City Council for any event, service or activity being conducted on their grounds or in their buildings was brought to the Churchill Soccer Club, the Latrobe City Council, The Gippsland Water Board, other promenant shareholders like Tom Lawless, and is on record with the Hazelwood and Churchill District Girl Guide Minutes as an ongoing issue that is negatively impacting on the use of the Hazelwood [South] Hall.

Many people thought that the Hazelwood [South] Hall just had bad plumbing – after all the Hall was opened in 1959. Indeed these same people, and organisations, denied any smell at all being in the vicinity. The adverse publicity that the Hazelwood and Churchill Girl Guide community was hearing back did little for the Girl Guide membership drives. In fact the smell and another factor was the reason why the Hazelwood [South] Hall has minimal usage currently from the both the Hazelwood and Churchill Girl Guides.

Duck shoving like this the problem back onto those leasing the Hazelwood [South] Hall was not tolerated by the Hazelwood and Churchill Girl Guide District Leader and Leaders who had by now had enough. The Department of Sustainability and Environment were happy to abide with what the Latrobe City Council believed in the overall professional assessment being conducted. After all the boundaries were blurred as to who smell was the smell. The opinion is still held that as the Hazelwood and Churchill District Girl Guides are the holders of the Lease on the Hazelwood [South] Hall then it was up to the leases to sort this matter out.

A registered Septic Tank Plumber was approached and for nearly four years was asked to come and find the Hazelwood [South] Hall old septic tank. Turns out this plumber was the same plumber who years before was the contractor who did the plumbing when the extension to the Hazelwood [South] Hall internal toilet block was built!

A major difficulty was that the Latrobe city Council and the Gippsland Water Board had experienced similar problems during some of their moves. Plans went missing. The Hazelwood District Girl Guides supplied both these organisations with what inguinal drawings and plans we had available. So that problem of no plans was fixed.

Early in the 2000’s a previous Hazelwood Girl Guide Support Member, also a father of a couple of Girls [a Girl Guide and Brownie Guide], who was a plumber by trade at the time when the indoor toilets were being built, told the current (2008 – >) Hazelwood and Churchill District Leader that it had been discovered/ known that the septic tank was dismembered at the time of the addition. He could not be sure where the old septic actually was though as he had not seen it exposed.

However in an original drawing that was probably as old as the Hazelwood [South] Hall there was a dotted line going from the Churchill Soccer Clubs buildings that until 2007 were the change and the catering rooms for all members to the back of the internal toilet extension. Then the dotted lines appeared to be connected to the additions external waste system.

The Septic smell reactions reached their peak after the building of the Churchill Soccer Clubs new Pavilion. The Hazelwood Reserve was dug up to accommodate what we thought were pipes which interconnected with the Hazelwood [Souths] Hall pipes leading then under the Tramway Road. The Contracted plumber apparently being the same one who had done the Internal toilet Block on the Hazelwood [South] Hall. Actually the was the same one who on several times over the years was asked to find where the old Septic tank was. How much would he charge? etc.

The initial plans for the sewage outlet were in the hands of the Gippsland Water Board. The final sewage inspection was not competed. Turns out that if a qualified septic tank plumber lays a septic waste disposal line there is no need for the final sewer inspection to be completed.

This mess of paperwork avoidance was brought to new Hazelwood and Churchill Girl Guide District Leaders attention when a person in authority made the comment that he ‘did not know why you let the girls play in ‘shit”‘ .At this point the District Leader then remembered as a Leader calling into the Hazelwood [South] Hall one day on other business and seeing the equipment laying a strange pipe in gravel that was going into the dug up Reserve ground. Knowing that a leak from the frontage pipes had been fixed through a combined Gippsland Water Board and the Latrobe City Council effort The complaints re this leak had been going on for more than a year at the time of fixing the frontage leak] The Leader was curious. Also the plumber was near the Hazelwood [South[] Hall the finance was available as a donation would this Septic qualified plumber please find the old Septic tank?

While the Leader was approaching to ask the questions of the plumber [what was happening, was the area going to be safely cordoned off etc the Leader noted that the attitude of the plumber was aggressively evasive]
strength. Since this lesson was learned through personal injury being sustained the observations of what was actually going on were detailed and remembered.

Were the trenches deep enough to counter the lye of the land re the carriage of effluent?. The reserve was known to retain excess water as the gradient was lowest in the middle of the reserve. It was common knowledge that trapped water had to evaporate as there was no other means of escape. Having remembered finding out that something similar to skinny ‘agg’ pipe was being laid, that the pipes did not apparently go all the was to the Tramway Road effluent town pipes what was actually happening to the waste water of the Churchill Soccer Clubs Pavilion, change room facilities and canteen? At the most the septic line passed within a few meters of the Hazelwood [South] Hall toilet extension and also the frontage of the Hall..

The original septic smell now had increased in potency and strength. The soil around the pipes was caving in. What Aggi pipes were there were seen to be less than 20 cm from the Reserve grounds surface. The Reserve being crown land looked after by the Latrobe City Council was open to the Public entry. The smallest Churchill Soccer children practised in the lowest areas of the Reserve often. The Hazelwood and Churchill Girl Guides used the upper area [highest part of] the reserve for their activities.

The Latrobe City Council eventually sent out their officers. Which resulted in the ground being filled in around the pipes. Their contractual plumbers came out and did something to the pipes. The contactual plumbers also checked the Haelwood [South] Halls plumbing re the smell. The conclusion was that the smell that the Girl Guides were still reporting did not come from the Hazelwood [South] Hall.

Eventually the Hazelwood [South] Halls old septic tank was discovered. The concrete top was sticking out of the top of the ground. One of the Hazelwood District Teams members came down and the dry top soil was lifted away. Terrific news not only was the septic tank filled with sand but the position was on the Latrobe City Councils Hazelwood South Reserve.

The Hazelwood South Hall’s booking person made initial phone calls to the Latrobe City Council reporting this find and the condition of the area. The District Leader of the Girl Guides followed up an initial call from a leader to the Latrobe City Council. When it was explained that the concrete both a Risk Analysis and an Occupational Health and Safety issue to both the general Public along with their equipment and to those who were mowing the reserve the appropriate action was quickly taken. The top was covered in top soil.

So now the Hazelwood and Churchill Girl Guide District team had substantial proof to go back to the Latrobe City Council and again state the septic smell was still coming from not only the Reserve field but also as previously stated from the area near the older Churchill Soccer Ground cafeteria and Change Room facilities. An additional point was made that behind the old Soccer club rooms the ground was constantly wet. Mosquitoes were seen to swarm in the clear pine tree filtering sunset rays. Mosquitoes liked their living conditions to be damp and nutritious.

re were substancial Thankfully this has been followed up by a responsible remember of the Latrobe City Council. Who, having sort further professional advise, made certain conditions to be implemented to eliminate wafting over the Reserve field and lodging under the Hazelwood [South] Hall and thus, it is thought, causing the smelly problem.

We, The Hazelwood and Churchill Girl Guide District will be very appreciative to finally have this smelly problem under wraps.

March 4, 2010 Posted by | Churchill Soccer, events, Gippsland Water Board, Hazelwood Reserve, Hazelwood South Hall, Latrobe City Council, meeting, OHS, plans, plumber, Plumbing, responsibility, Risk Analysis, Septic | 1 Comment

WATER LEAK NEXT TO HAZ STH COM HALL


Re: WATER LEAK NEXT TO HAZ STH COM HALL
From: Tarnia.Leeming@dse.vic.gov.au
Date: Mon, February 16, 2009 8:04 am
To: susanc@speedweb.com.au
Priority: Normal
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Hi Susan,  Could you please provide details regarding the 
sign and "gorilla garden"  you wish to construct on the 
Crown land as you will need to obtain written  consent from
 DSE prior to the commencement of works. Details I need  
include a map showing where the sign and garden will be 
placed and a  description of works involved.  
Regards,   
  susanc@speedweb.com.au  12/02/2009 04:44 PM 
 To Tarnia.Leeming@dse.vic.gov.au cc  
Subject

March 2, 2010 Posted by | Consent, Crown land, DSE, Garden, Gorilla, Hazelwood Reserve, map, Sign, Water leak | Leave a comment

? a Commitee of management

Hi there.   I am in the process of once again trying to establish a management committee for Hall.  One query has risen. As an independent committee they have to be registered as a committee with some government body.  Therefore they also have to have a constitution and ???  Where do I find out about all this?  Also attached is a copy of the Latrobe City Reserve proposal.  Not quite how sure they are placing the pathway across the front of the Hall.  But I'm not impressed with bollards being placed just there.  Leaves no adequate parking for either us, the gun club and/ emergency vehicles. The vehicle side lane effectively cuts any parking as it is currently out about 2/3rds.

February 28, 2010 Posted by | CoM, Emergency Vehicles, Hazelwood Reserve, Latrobe City Reserve proposal, Parking | Leave a comment

Whose responsible for what?

Hi Sue,  If a committee of management is appointed by DSE, they are appointed using  the Crown Land (Reserves) Act 1978 and there is no requirement for them to  have a constitution. However we do offer our committees of management a  template if they wish to create one to help with the management  arrangements of the reserve.  Please note, you will not be responsible for putting together a committee  of management - this is something that DSE does that may involve holding a  public meeting or calling for expressions of interest through local  newspapers.  Im still yet to receive any confirmation from the Girl Guides that they  would like us to commence this process. Until then, the hall is licensed  to the Girl Guides for them to use for girl guide activities. It is not a  public hall and is not available for community use at this point in time.  Thank you for providing me with a copy of Latrobe City Council's reserve  proposal. I ask that you forward your concerns to Council for  consideration.  Regards,     susanc@speedweb.com.au  16/04/2009 04:22 PM  To Tarnia.Leeming@dse.vic.gov.au cc  Subject Hazelwood South Hall

February 28, 2010 Posted by | CoM, Constitution, Girl Guides, Hazelwood Reserve, Hazelwood South Hall, Latrobe City Council, responsibilities, Template | Leave a comment

Two different Hoons in 2 minutes. Unbelievable.

March 2009 was the last time that a Hazelwood and Churchill Girl Guide meeting was actually run at the Hazelwood [South] hall the following occurred.

As one approached the car parking area out the front doors of the Hazelwood [South] Hall there is a large pile of dirt and gravel to the Right. About 2 car widths away from where a Girl Guide Leader had parked. To the left other car was another vehicle. About 1 car width away from the Left of the car doors.
Items were being unpacked for use from the second cars boot. One Guide had already gone into the Hazelwood [South] Hall, another had her arms full of bags and was going to the right of the car to speak to the Guide Leader.
A car entering the Hazelwood [South] hall’s off road entrance speed by taking a short cut to the Soccer Ground through the Hazelwood [South] Reserve. Too late for a warning to be issued and very glad that anything untoward did not eventualt the District Leader encouraged the Youth member inside.
As the District Leader was now getting the extra things out of the boot she was about to speek to the other leader who had stepped back from sorting things out in the front drivers side of the car. The Guide going inside called to the Leader. The leader turned her head right toward the door. In the process of flicking the door closed with the right hand the leaders body was to the right of the just closing car door.
A second over packed car speed up the Hazelwood [South] Hall off road car entrance. While the driver (in 60’s) and his grandchildren and their friends sped laughing past they managed to miss the Leader by approximately 20 centermetres.
An instant further risk analysis was done which resulted in the Hazelwood and Churchill Girl Guides meeting at the old Glendonald Child and Maternal Health Centre, 19 Churinga Drive, Glendonald, Churchill.

February 25, 2010 Posted by | Churchill Soccer Club, Hazelwood Reserve, Hazelwood South Hall, Hoons, responsibility, Risk Analysis | Leave a comment

‘Hoon’ driver during overnight camp play time.

When the District had an overnight stay a five year old youth member of Guides was walking near the front of the Hazelwood [South] Halls north eastern corner. A white Ute came came from the South (New Soccer club room area) towards the Hazelwood [South] Halls off road entrance / exit.. The Guide was running around just playing. None of us expected that a ‘hoon‘ would travel quickly over to this exit. During this time the ‘Hoon‘ driving just about collided with the young Guide. Should this have happened there was nothing we could have done except phone emergency services.

Unfortunately the Ute was either travelling too fast for an accurate number plate identification to be taken, or the number plate was on the wrong vehicle. When the incident was immediately reported to the police response was that the police could not do anything about this incident.
The soccer club secretary and also the President were informed at different times. their response was that the incident did not happen. We were making it up.

February 25, 2010 Posted by | Emergency, Hazelwood Reserve, Hoons, Incident, police | Leave a comment

Near accidents as speeding vehicles cut across the Hazelwood South reserve.

Over the last few years the Youth Members, Olave Program Members, Visitors, Parents, Leaders and the District Leaders have witnessed near accidents occur with speeding cars, Utes and 4 wheel drives competing for the soccer clubs car parking positions by speeding while cutting across the Hazelwood Reserve or vehicles are parked criss crossing all around the Hazelwood South Reserve..

While the public or members of the Hazelwood and Churchill Girl Guides are other wise occupied with what the Hazelwood and Churchill Girl Guides have planned out these speeding ‘hoons’ can severely hurt someone – as has been the case on several occasions.
The risk analysis was easy to decide. Effecivetly prevention is better than cure. This step has drastically reduced the use of the Hazelwood [South] Hall until the Latrobe City Council has fixed the cause.

February 25, 2010 Posted by | Car Park, Churchill, Entrance, Hazelwood Reserve, Hazelwood South Hall, Hoons, Latrobe City Council, Parking, Risk Analysis | Leave a comment

The Hazelwood South Reserve is part of our Guiding life.

The reserve next to the Hazelwood [South] Hall is an area that all the varing ages of Girl Guides go out and have either group or team/patrol sports time. These activities have gone on here for over fifty years.

Having the Hazelwood South reserve just there to the north of the Hazelwood [South] hall has been a bonus for outdoor activities for over fifty years. That is until the soccer members / families decide to tear up into the car park area outside the front of the Hazelwood [South] Halls front doors and continue to speed over the Hazelwood South Reserve.

February 25, 2010 Posted by | Hazelwood Reserve, Hazelwood South Hall, History games | Leave a comment